WOAI: San Antonio News - Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq
Posted By: Jim Forsyth
(SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.
Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.
"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
Dean says the Democrat position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is likely to include several proposals.
"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years," Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab) Zarqawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the target off the backs of American troops.
Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two years. He said the Democrat proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.
"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
My God what an asshole! 130,000 troops in the field. 2,000 killed. Saddam removed in three weeks. Constitution written, democratic elections in three days. Three elections carried out with almost no violence. American troops go anywhere in the country they want, when they want. Tiny trickle of casualties from IED's and suicide bombers, because terrorists won't dare attack US troops head on. This is defeat? How many civilians in Israel are killed, and have been killed, every year for decades? How come they're not defeated? Because they have guts and a strong stomach. Dean doesn't.
I love the idea about still staying in the Middle East to "fight the war on terror", and Zarqawi! Hilarious! What country does he have in mind? Why won't the Muslims there get mad to see American troops? Will the terrorists from Iraq go there to fight us? Why not fight them where they are now? Will Zarqawi go there? What if he doesn't? Will we send raids to Iraq to fight and capture him? How will this be easier to do from another country? Is he saying this other country, which is not named, will be safer for US troops? If it's safer, why?-because there are no terrorists there? Then doesn't that make it a bad place to fight the war on terror? That's like saying we want to fight Hitler, but we want to do it in South Africa- you don't get to pick, dude!
When lefties say that Iraq is a distraction from the war on terror I think that's ridiculous! Where do they think we should be fighting the war on terror? Who kills American troops in Iraq, and cuts off heads? Terrorists! They ARE IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW, AND WE KILL THEM EVERY DAY! Lefties say Bush doesnt' have a plan, although that's all he's talked about for two years. Where's their fucking plan, not just for Iraq, but for the war on terror? Or is it just being nice to people, and hoping they stop killing us? See how well that's worked for Europe!
Posted By: Jim Forsyth
(SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.
Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.
"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
Dean says the Democrat position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is likely to include several proposals.
"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years," Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab) Zarqawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the target off the backs of American troops.
Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two years. He said the Democrat proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.
"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
My God what an asshole! 130,000 troops in the field. 2,000 killed. Saddam removed in three weeks. Constitution written, democratic elections in three days. Three elections carried out with almost no violence. American troops go anywhere in the country they want, when they want. Tiny trickle of casualties from IED's and suicide bombers, because terrorists won't dare attack US troops head on. This is defeat? How many civilians in Israel are killed, and have been killed, every year for decades? How come they're not defeated? Because they have guts and a strong stomach. Dean doesn't.
I love the idea about still staying in the Middle East to "fight the war on terror", and Zarqawi! Hilarious! What country does he have in mind? Why won't the Muslims there get mad to see American troops? Will the terrorists from Iraq go there to fight us? Why not fight them where they are now? Will Zarqawi go there? What if he doesn't? Will we send raids to Iraq to fight and capture him? How will this be easier to do from another country? Is he saying this other country, which is not named, will be safer for US troops? If it's safer, why?-because there are no terrorists there? Then doesn't that make it a bad place to fight the war on terror? That's like saying we want to fight Hitler, but we want to do it in South Africa- you don't get to pick, dude!
When lefties say that Iraq is a distraction from the war on terror I think that's ridiculous! Where do they think we should be fighting the war on terror? Who kills American troops in Iraq, and cuts off heads? Terrorists! They ARE IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW, AND WE KILL THEM EVERY DAY! Lefties say Bush doesnt' have a plan, although that's all he's talked about for two years. Where's their fucking plan, not just for Iraq, but for the war on terror? Or is it just being nice to people, and hoping they stop killing us? See how well that's worked for Europe!
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